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Skydemon with Safesky.....Again!


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I'm a big fan of using technology to enhance flight safety and particularly in the area of conspicuity.  I've been doing a lot of flying lately using Pilot Aware, Sky Echo and SafeSky.
The most contacts you will see is using Pilot aware but Pilot aware does not put out ADSB if you need it to do that.
The next best is Safesky and finally the least you will see is using Skyecho with contacts showing on Skydemon.
Now when i use Safesky alongside Skydemon using the GDL90 option then brilliant I have all those Safesky contacts showing on my Skydemon app. However to do that I have to use the GDL90 device option when i "Fly", ie my phone as the GPS source. The problem now is if i loose my phone signal then Skydemon doesn't know where it is.
So to my question and point! Can Skydemon allow us to have Skydemon traffic showing using the GDL90 protocol but allow us in the app to use say Skyecho for the GPS?
This would be a perfect sollution at a very affordable price to enhance flight safety. I'm told you can do this Skydemon but are possibly being a little reluctant to do this as you don't like the use of mobile phones for this purpose? Please correct me if i'm wrong?
I have been using Safesky for months and it is brilliant. I see aircraft where they are and not where they were 30secs ago and for my kind of flying around the UK at up to around 3000ft have never lost 4g mobile phone coverage.
Currently i run Safesky on a seperate ipad on other side of my cockpit and it works a treat tethered to my phone but it would be so much better running inside Skydemon.
Please look at allowing this integration into your software using seperate GPS as it can only lead to enhanced flight safety.
I would ask others if you feel the same to please support this post and if you haven't already tried Safesky then download it and give it a try, it's free! However if you want to be able to use it in Skydemon then there's a modest yearly fee of around £25 i think.

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jacoby - 8/16/2025 12:26:23 PM
Tony N - 8/16/2025 7:23:35 AM
jacoby - 8/15/2025 1:49:55 PM
Just a quick note to add to this useful thread about getting SafeSky to supplement SkyEcho traffic shown in SkyDemon.

The process as described by FlappingTiger worked for me too. I'll recap my steps here in case it helps anyone else wanting to get this combo going:

1. Turn on Sky Echo
2. Connect your iPad to the Sky Echo wifi
3. Start SkyDemon, Fly with Sky Echo
4. Connect your smartphone (during flight it can stay in your pocket!) to Sky Echo wifi
5. Start SafeSky (PAID version which as RidgeSkimmer points out is needed to allow traffic sharing)
6. Configure SafeSky "Navigation Software" with Enable Traffic Sharing to SkyDemon.
7. Configure SafeSky "External Traffic Device" with SkyEcho
8. Configure SafeSky "My Aircraft" with the correct ICAO unique hex code
9. "Take Off with SkyEcho" in SafeSky.
10. Now SafeSky supplements the native SkyEcho traffic with its own where possible.

A few observations:

1. When I ran SafeSky on the same old-ish iPad as SkyDemon, it kinda worked but then froze shortly after take-off.
2. Running SafeSky on my smartphone fixed this problem, and the iPad SkyDemon shows its traffic just fine.
3. When running SkyDemon, I choose "Fly with SkyEcho", not "Fly with GDL 90 Compatible Device". I cannot explain exactly why this works and SkyDemon aren't too keen on engaging in technical explanations - but it works as RidgeSkimmer says, and also means the Sky Echo control menu item is retained in SkyDemon while flying (e.g. to turn ADSB-Out off and on). One possibility is that the "Take Off with SkyEcho" option in SafeSky causes it to broadcast its UDP packets on the SkyEcho's standard UDP port, and SkyDemon can't tell the difference. But that's a wild guess.
4. I suspect Android tablets and newer iPads may be better at multitasking, meaning smartphone not required. But I still like the idea of splitting the SafeSky processing load off to a different device (that's the networking/computer nerd in me I guess).

Thanks to FlappingTiger for the useful post detailing all this in the first place, much appreciated. 

There is an issue if trying to do this using an Android smartphone. The phone's Android OS won't allow a mobile data connection when the WIFI link (to the SE2) is active. I haven't been able to find a working solution to this issue for Android users. I am now using the new Safesky Aero Tracker which connects via Bluetooth.

That is an interesting observation, I imagine this behaviour must vary by device. 

My Pixel 7 happens to work in this configuration, successfully connecting to LTE for internet and to SkyEcho WiFi at the same time.

I know that this seems like a stupid question, but are you sure? For a few years I thought I had a good mobile data connection, when using my SE2. That was until trying to test something and I realised that SkyDemon wasn't receiving real time weather updates when the SE2 was connected..
If the Pixel 7 really does work then that is really good to know. I thought all Android devices were, more or less, the same..

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Tony N - 8/18/2025 3:39:06 PM
jacoby - 8/16/2025 12:26:23 PM
Tony N - 8/16/2025 7:23:35 AM
jacoby - 8/15/2025 1:49:55 PM
Just a quick note to add to this useful thread about getting SafeSky to supplement SkyEcho traffic shown in SkyDemon.

The process as described by FlappingTiger worked for me too. I'll recap my steps here in case it helps anyone else wanting to get this combo going:

1. Turn on Sky Echo
2. Connect your iPad to the Sky Echo wifi
3. Start SkyDemon, Fly with Sky Echo
4. Connect your smartphone (during flight it can stay in your pocket!) to Sky Echo wifi
5. Start SafeSky (PAID version which as RidgeSkimmer points out is needed to allow traffic sharing)
6. Configure SafeSky "Navigation Software" with Enable Traffic Sharing to SkyDemon.
7. Configure SafeSky "External Traffic Device" with SkyEcho
8. Configure SafeSky "My Aircraft" with the correct ICAO unique hex code
9. "Take Off with SkyEcho" in SafeSky.
10. Now SafeSky supplements the native SkyEcho traffic with its own where possible.

A few observations:

1. When I ran SafeSky on the same old-ish iPad as SkyDemon, it kinda worked but then froze shortly after take-off.
2. Running SafeSky on my smartphone fixed this problem, and the iPad SkyDemon shows its traffic just fine.
3. When running SkyDemon, I choose "Fly with SkyEcho", not "Fly with GDL 90 Compatible Device". I cannot explain exactly why this works and SkyDemon aren't too keen on engaging in technical explanations - but it works as RidgeSkimmer says, and also means the Sky Echo control menu item is retained in SkyDemon while flying (e.g. to turn ADSB-Out off and on). One possibility is that the "Take Off with SkyEcho" option in SafeSky causes it to broadcast its UDP packets on the SkyEcho's standard UDP port, and SkyDemon can't tell the difference. But that's a wild guess.
4. I suspect Android tablets and newer iPads may be better at multitasking, meaning smartphone not required. But I still like the idea of splitting the SafeSky processing load off to a different device (that's the networking/computer nerd in me I guess).

Thanks to FlappingTiger for the useful post detailing all this in the first place, much appreciated. 

There is an issue if trying to do this using an Android smartphone. The phone's Android OS won't allow a mobile data connection when the WIFI link (to the SE2) is active. I haven't been able to find a working solution to this issue for Android users. I am now using the new Safesky Aero Tracker which connects via Bluetooth.

That is an interesting observation, I imagine this behaviour must vary by device. 

My Pixel 7 happens to work in this configuration, successfully connecting to LTE for internet and to SkyEcho WiFi at the same time.

I know that this seems like a stupid question, but are you sure? For a few years I thought I had a good mobile data connection, when using my SE2. That was until trying to test something and I realised that SkyDemon wasn't receiving real time weather updates when the SE2 was connected..
If the Pixel 7 really does work then that is really good to know. I thought all Android devices were, more or less, the same..

I will double check this Thursday when I am flying again, and report back with either a confirmation or an apology! I know from previous experience how easy it is to confuse configurations when switching around to make something work...

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jacoby - 8/15/2025 1:49:55 PM
                         There is an issue if trying to do this using an Android smartphone....
tnowak - 8/16/2025 7:23:35 AM
                             That is an interesting observation, I imagine this behaviour must vary...
jacoby - 8/16/2025 12:26:23 PM
                                 I know that this seems like a stupid question, but are you sure? For a...
tnowak - 8/18/2025 3:39:06 PM
                                     I will double check this Thursday when I am flying again, and report...
jacoby - 8/18/2025 8:45:13 PM
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